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A vehicle rolled over and caught fire in the north bound lanes of 347 approximately 1 mile north of Rancho El Dorado, 347 North remains closed at this time as Gila River and DPS conduct an investigation.  Mixed reports indicate a possible fatality but this has not been confirmed.

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A vehicle rolled over and caught fire in the north bound lanes of 347 approximately 1 mile north of Rancho El Dorado, 347 North remains closed at this time as Gila River and DPS conduct an investigation.  Mixed reports indicate a possible fatality but this has not been confirmed.

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With less water on the surface, how long can Arizona rely on what’s underground?

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Marvin Glotfelty, a hydrogeologist who has worked on more than 1,000 wells in Arizona, said depleting the area’s groundwater could soon mean lower quality water getting piped to the surface. That would require costly treatment from municipal water providers. (Photo by Alex Hager/KUN


By Alex Hage | KUNC



In Arizona, verdant fields of crops and a growing sprawl of suburban homes mean a sharp demand for water in the middle of the desert. Meeting that demand includes drawing from massive stores of underground water. But some experts say those aquifers are overtaxed and shouldn’t be seen as a long-term solution for a region where the water supply is expected to shrink in the decades to come.



“We should recognize now, as we do with the Colorado River, that we have to take action before it’s too late,” said Kathleen Ferris, a senior research fellow with Arizona State University’s Kyl Center for Water Policy.



Ferris has made groundwater her life’s work, helping write some of Arizona’s foundational groundwater management law in the late 1970s and later directing the state’s Department of Water Resources. Now, she’s calling for updates to policies she says no longer are sustainable.


The new year brings the first mandatory cutbacks to the Colorado River Basin, where some users will have their supply reduced to slow the decline of water levels in Lake Mead. That reservoir continues to dip down past already record lows, thanks to rapid growth in the Southwest and more than two decades of drought made worse by climate change.


The cutbacks will remove about 18% of Arizona’s Colorado River supply, accounting for about 8% of the state’s total water use. Agricultural users will be the first to see cuts, which will be rolled out gradually over the course of 2022. Long-term climate forecasts indicate that more cuts likely will be necessary in years to come.


As Arizona’s share from the Colorado dwindles, the state will have less excess water to recharge aquifers and will have to lean more on already-stored groundwater from other sources.


“We’re still taking more groundwater out than is replenished,” Ferris said, “And since groundwater is a finite supply, ultimately, if you do that for over a long period of time, you won’t have that resource to rely on.”


Ferris said there might be more public attention and alarm surrounding the issue if it wasn’t so hard to see. Dropping levels in Lake Mead have engendered widespread concern, with “bathtub rings” of white minerals serving as an eerie reminder of where the water once was – not to mention a compelling visual in countless articles from national news media. But when it comes to underground water, there’s no equivalent.


Residential developments are a major point of concern for Ferris. She is skeptical of housing developers’ ability to assure the requisite 100-year supply of water for the communities they build. Arizona requires developers to prove that homes will have access to water for a century, but Ferris argues that sophisticated modeling in some areas has proven that groundwater won’t last as long as those builders claim.


To prove that new neighborhoods will have a century’s worth of water in areas around Phoenix and Tucson, developers can point to groundwater that goes down 1,100 feet below the surface. But a 2021 report co-authored by Ferris argues that those numbers are not based on modern science.


“Rather,” the report reads, “they are arbitrary numbers picked because they are less than the 1,200-foot depth to groundwater that was permitted under the state’s 1973 ‘adequate’ water supply program, in which 1,200 feet was based on the deepest well in the state at the time.”


Arizona farmer struggles with water shortage, thinks about selling the family farm 

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Reductions to Arizona’s Colorado River supply, including water delivered by the Central Arizona Project, started in January 2022. The first-ever cutbacks will mean less is available for replenishing underground storage. /Photo by Alex Hager/KUNC


Developers see things differently. Spencer Kamps, vice president of legislative affairs for the Home Builders Association of Central Arizona, contends that residential development has helped the state keep its total water use steady for decades, even as its population has grown.


“The reason Arizona adopted the Groundwater Management Act in 1980 was because the agricultural industry was overusing groundwater,” he said. “Tables were depleting. When homes are built on farmland and we retire that ag use and that ag pumping, which is unreplenished, we use less water.”


Kamps is alluding to a rule requiring residential developers to replace nearly all of the groundwater they’ve pumped out. He argues that criticisms of the homebuilding industry are misdirected when agricultural users do not have to abide by the same rules while using groundwater.


“There’s a reason that we use the same amount of water today that we used in 1957 with all the population growth that we’ve seen over the last 50 to 60 years,” Kamps said. “The two reasons that we use the same amount of water as we did in ’57 is because of residential growth and conservation.”


Some experts say water supplies will deplete, but not so quickly that there is cause for immediate alarm. Grady Gammage Jr., a longtime real estate lawyer and public policy expert who also serves as a senior research fellow at the Kyl Center, said the tone of urgency comes from those who want to coax quick action from elected officials.

Quote:“I tend to worry more about sending an overly negative crisis message than some of the water people do, who want to send a crisis message because they want funding,” he said.

Gammage agrees that developers are leaning on groundwater as a way to permit development, even when it may not be sustainable for the 100-year stretch they have promised, but he sees it as more of a legal risk than a “long-term catastrophic shortfall risk.”

“That’s exactly what it’s there for,” he said, referring to groundwater. “And it’s exactly how we should use it, but we should do that only as we have an expectation that there’s some point in the horizon at which we’re going to quit doing that.”


In addition to depleting the total amount of water available, draining aquifers could harm the quality of the water that remains. Marvin Glotfelty, a fourth-generation Arizonan and hydrogeologist who has worked on more than 1,000 wells, said changes in the level of underground water could force users to draw from areas exposed to pollutants.


Groundwater considered unsafe for drinking could start coming up through wells in central Arizona “within half a decade,” Glotfelty said.


“When we start pumping more groundwater because of a lack of surface water,” he said, “now we’re going to be impacting the aquifer and it won’t take very long for well after well after well to start having these problems. So it’ll be a common thing.”


Water agencies are required to treat the supply before it’s piped to home faucets, but that process is expensive.


“They’re going to have to raise their rates to treat that water,” Glotfelty said. “So people are going to pay a lot more money for water than they do currently.”]]>



With less water on the surface, how long can Arizona rely on what’s underground?

[Image: aquifermarvin-800.jpg]
Marvin Glotfelty, a hydrogeologist who has worked on more than 1,000 wells in Arizona, said depleting the area’s groundwater could soon mean lower quality water getting piped to the surface. That would require costly treatment from municipal water providers. (Photo by Alex Hager/KUN


By Alex Hage | KUNC



In Arizona, verdant fields of crops and a growing sprawl of suburban homes mean a sharp demand for water in the middle of the desert. Meeting that demand includes drawing from massive stores of underground water. But some experts say those aquifers are overtaxed and shouldn’t be seen as a long-term solution for a region where the water supply is expected to shrink in the decades to come.



“We should recognize now, as we do with the Colorado River, that we have to take action before it’s too late,” said Kathleen Ferris, a senior research fellow with Arizona State University’s Kyl Center for Water Policy.



Ferris has made groundwater her life’s work, helping write some of Arizona’s foundational groundwater management law in the late 1970s and later directing the state’s Department of Water Resources. Now, she’s calling for updates to policies she says no longer are sustainable.


The new year brings the first mandatory cutbacks to the Colorado River Basin, where some users will have their supply reduced to slow the decline of water levels in Lake Mead. That reservoir continues to dip down past already record lows, thanks to rapid growth in the Southwest and more than two decades of drought made worse by climate change.


The cutbacks will remove about 18% of Arizona’s Colorado River supply, accounting for about 8% of the state’s total water use. Agricultural users will be the first to see cuts, which will be rolled out gradually over the course of 2022. Long-term climate forecasts indicate that more cuts likely will be necessary in years to come.


As Arizona’s share from the Colorado dwindles, the state will have less excess water to recharge aquifers and will have to lean more on already-stored groundwater from other sources.


“We’re still taking more groundwater out than is replenished,” Ferris said, “And since groundwater is a finite supply, ultimately, if you do that for over a long period of time, you won’t have that resource to rely on.”


Ferris said there might be more public attention and alarm surrounding the issue if it wasn’t so hard to see. Dropping levels in Lake Mead have engendered widespread concern, with “bathtub rings” of white minerals serving as an eerie reminder of where the water once was – not to mention a compelling visual in countless articles from national news media. But when it comes to underground water, there’s no equivalent.


Residential developments are a major point of concern for Ferris. She is skeptical of housing developers’ ability to assure the requisite 100-year supply of water for the communities they build. Arizona requires developers to prove that homes will have access to water for a century, but Ferris argues that sophisticated modeling in some areas has proven that groundwater won’t last as long as those builders claim.


To prove that new neighborhoods will have a century’s worth of water in areas around Phoenix and Tucson, developers can point to groundwater that goes down 1,100 feet below the surface. But a 2021 report co-authored by Ferris argues that those numbers are not based on modern science.


“Rather,” the report reads, “they are arbitrary numbers picked because they are less than the 1,200-foot depth to groundwater that was permitted under the state’s 1973 ‘adequate’ water supply program, in which 1,200 feet was based on the deepest well in the state at the time.”


Arizona farmer struggles with water shortage, thinks about selling the family farm 

[Image: aquifercanal-800.jpg]

Reductions to Arizona’s Colorado River supply, including water delivered by the Central Arizona Project, started in January 2022. The first-ever cutbacks will mean less is available for replenishing underground storage. /Photo by Alex Hager/KUNC


Developers see things differently. Spencer Kamps, vice president of legislative affairs for the Home Builders Association of Central Arizona, contends that residential development has helped the state keep its total water use steady for decades, even as its population has grown.


“The reason Arizona adopted the Groundwater Management Act in 1980 was because the agricultural industry was overusing groundwater,” he said. “Tables were depleting. When homes are built on farmland and we retire that ag use and that ag pumping, which is unreplenished, we use less water.”


Kamps is alluding to a rule requiring residential developers to replace nearly all of the groundwater they’ve pumped out. He argues that criticisms of the homebuilding industry are misdirected when agricultural users do not have to abide by the same rules while using groundwater.


“There’s a reason that we use the same amount of water today that we used in 1957 with all the population growth that we’ve seen over the last 50 to 60 years,” Kamps said. “The two reasons that we use the same amount of water as we did in ’57 is because of residential growth and conservation.”


Some experts say water supplies will deplete, but not so quickly that there is cause for immediate alarm. Grady Gammage Jr., a longtime real estate lawyer and public policy expert who also serves as a senior research fellow at the Kyl Center, said the tone of urgency comes from those who want to coax quick action from elected officials.

Quote:“I tend to worry more about sending an overly negative crisis message than some of the water people do, who want to send a crisis message because they want funding,” he said.

Gammage agrees that developers are leaning on groundwater as a way to permit development, even when it may not be sustainable for the 100-year stretch they have promised, but he sees it as more of a legal risk than a “long-term catastrophic shortfall risk.”

“That’s exactly what it’s there for,” he said, referring to groundwater. “And it’s exactly how we should use it, but we should do that only as we have an expectation that there’s some point in the horizon at which we’re going to quit doing that.”


In addition to depleting the total amount of water available, draining aquifers could harm the quality of the water that remains. Marvin Glotfelty, a fourth-generation Arizonan and hydrogeologist who has worked on more than 1,000 wells, said changes in the level of underground water could force users to draw from areas exposed to pollutants.


Groundwater considered unsafe for drinking could start coming up through wells in central Arizona “within half a decade,” Glotfelty said.


“When we start pumping more groundwater because of a lack of surface water,” he said, “now we’re going to be impacting the aquifer and it won’t take very long for well after well after well to start having these problems. So it’ll be a common thing.”


Water agencies are required to treat the supply before it’s piped to home faucets, but that process is expensive.


“They’re going to have to raise their rates to treat that water,” Glotfelty said. “So people are going to pay a lot more money for water than they do currently.”]]> <![CDATA[I-11 Maps/Proposed Route]]> https://maricopa.town/showthread.php?tid=3 Sat, 22 Jan 2022 01:03:56 +0000 Rainfire]]> https://maricopa.town/showthread.php?tid=3
(01-21-2022, 06:03 PM)Rainfire Wrote: While the Stop I-11 in Hidden Valley group would like to see the freeway follow I-8 west to Hwy 85 and go N from there, the current proposal, and the one suggested by the state ignores all the comments and supporting material to follow a different route that cuts out approximately 16 minutes of travel time.  This is achieved by coming into the S side of Casa Grande, turning west along Barnes Road and going west to Amarillo Valley Road where it would swing NW to the intersection of Hwy 85 and I-10.  This route goes through countless homes, disrupts a dairy in Buckeye, and cuts close to the now-closed dairy at Louis Johnson Blvd and Amarillo Valley Road.  Here are the maps of the route from which a smaller path will be selected.

Here are some close-ups of various areas.

.jpg   Hidden Valley 1 Overview.jpg (Size: 1.78 MB / Downloads: 4)

.jpg   Hidden Valley 2 Overview.jpg (Size: 1.86 MB / Downloads: 3)

.jpg   Amarillo Valley & Barnes.jpg (Size: 1.92 MB / Downloads: 1)

.jpg   Warren & Teel overview.jpg (Size: 1.85 MB / Downloads: 1)

.jpg   Close-up Warren and Teel.jpg (Size: 2.17 MB / Downloads: 1)

.jpg   Medium View Warren and Teel.jpg (Size: 2.19 MB / Downloads: 2)

.jpg   Sage & Papago 1.jpg (Size: 3.26 MB / Downloads: 2)

.jpg   Papago & Fulcar overview.jpg (Size: 2.25 MB / Downloads: 3)

.jpg   Papagp & Allegro Roads.jpg (Size: 2.79 MB / Downloads: 2)

.jpg   Table Top and Fulcar Road 1.jpg (Size: 1.83 MB / Downloads: 3) ]]>
(01-21-2022, 06:03 PM)Rainfire Wrote: While the Stop I-11 in Hidden Valley group would like to see the freeway follow I-8 west to Hwy 85 and go N from there, the current proposal, and the one suggested by the state ignores all the comments and supporting material to follow a different route that cuts out approximately 16 minutes of travel time.  This is achieved by coming into the S side of Casa Grande, turning west along Barnes Road and going west to Amarillo Valley Road where it would swing NW to the intersection of Hwy 85 and I-10.  This route goes through countless homes, disrupts a dairy in Buckeye, and cuts close to the now-closed dairy at Louis Johnson Blvd and Amarillo Valley Road.  Here are the maps of the route from which a smaller path will be selected.

Here are some close-ups of various areas.

.jpg   Hidden Valley 1 Overview.jpg (Size: 1.78 MB / Downloads: 4)

.jpg   Hidden Valley 2 Overview.jpg (Size: 1.86 MB / Downloads: 3)

.jpg   Amarillo Valley & Barnes.jpg (Size: 1.92 MB / Downloads: 1)

.jpg   Warren & Teel overview.jpg (Size: 1.85 MB / Downloads: 1)

.jpg   Close-up Warren and Teel.jpg (Size: 2.17 MB / Downloads: 1)

.jpg   Medium View Warren and Teel.jpg (Size: 2.19 MB / Downloads: 2)

.jpg   Sage & Papago 1.jpg (Size: 3.26 MB / Downloads: 2)

.jpg   Papago & Fulcar overview.jpg (Size: 2.25 MB / Downloads: 3)

.jpg   Papagp & Allegro Roads.jpg (Size: 2.79 MB / Downloads: 2)

.jpg   Table Top and Fulcar Road 1.jpg (Size: 1.83 MB / Downloads: 3) ]]> <![CDATA[Which Internet Provider is the best out here?]]> https://maricopa.town/showthread.php?tid=2 Mon, 17 Jan 2022 17:27:23 +0000 admin]]> https://maricopa.town/showthread.php?tid=2 <![CDATA[For the People, By the People!]]> https://maricopa.town/showthread.php?tid=1 Mon, 17 Jan 2022 04:54:39 +0000 admin]]> https://maricopa.town/showthread.php?tid=1
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